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More on global warming deniers

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Tim Lambert has a good post. It begins:

Jeremy Jacquot has written a three part debunking of the claims in Joane Nova’s “Skeptic’s Handbook”: Part 1: increasing CO2 won’t make much difference, Part 2: warming has stopped and ice cores show that CO2 increases do not cause warming, and Part 3: the hot spot is missing. If all this seems familiar, it’s because Nova’s handbook is just a rehash of David Evans’ wrong-headed column in the Australian. (Nova is Evan’s partner and shares the same beliefs about global warming.)

The constant repetition of such discredited arguments has James Hrynyshyn wondering if there is any point:

For the last four years, I’ve spent a fair bit of time trying to do my bit to undermine the pseudoskeptical claptrap that passes for criticism of the idea that humans are responsible for global warming. And I’m getting tired. It doesn’t seem to matter how many bloggers and journalists who understand the science of climate change point out the facts as climate science understands them, pernicious long-debunked ideas (it’s all the sun’s fault, the hockey stick is a fraud, water vapor is a forcing, etc.) refuse to die. Is there any point?

For example, over the holidays, Jeremy Jacquot at deSmogBlog felt compelled to write a few thousand words dismantling the nonsense issued by one of the more annoyingly popular pseudoskeptics, Joanne Nova. I applaud Jeremy’s patience, and I hope I can find the time and energy to continue doing the same in 2009, but I am beginning to wonder if perhaps all this banging of heads against walls is a waste of effort.

The comments section of this blog, among others, has been overrun by those with nothing intelligent to say, no studies to cite, no science to explore, just moronic epithets.

You’ll have to click through to find out if he thinks there is still a point to it.

Me, I am remain fascinated by the capacity of folks like Nova for self-delusion. You see, she read my post where I explained that the greenhouse signature is not the hot spot but is in fact tropospheric warming and stratospheric cooling. What was her response? …

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Written by LeisureGuy

30 December 2008 at 10:41 am

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  1. There is only one complete and exact computer of global climate and that is the planet itself. Results from the planet computer are archived in the Vostok and EPICA ice cores. Global average temperature anomalies and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have been extracted from these ice cores and are widely available. Repeatedly during the last and previous glacial periods, a temperature increasing trend changed to a decreasing trend with the atmospheric carbon dioxide level higher during the temperature down-trend than it had been when the temperature trend was increasing. Alarmists are unaware of that part of science that proves, using the archived data, that added atmospheric carbon dioxide can not cause significant global warming. Any action that is taken to reduce human produced carbon dioxide to reduce global warming is a mistake and puts freedom and prosperity at risk.

    Dan Pangburn

    31 December 2008 at 7:57 am

  2. Finding low-carbon alternatives to our current lifestyle will stimulate many creative endeavors and new technology and lead to new prosperity. No freedoms are at risk, except the freedoms large corporations have enjoyed to ruin our environment.

    We will know in relatively few years if you are right or if the numerous scientists who have studied this for years are right. They are surely aware of the ice-cores.

    LeisureGuy

    31 December 2008 at 8:12 am

  3. It takes some effort, but it is possible to argue Dan Pangburn to a standstill. In the end, his theory that sunspots are causing climate change is indefensible.

    See: http://www.sindark.com/2009/07/28/hfcs-and-climate-change/

    Milan

    9 September 2009 at 11:30 am


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