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Interesting factoid regarding child abuse by clergy

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Recently the Catholic church has tried a counterattack (they tend to counterattack rather than trying to address the problem) by saying that many more children in the US are abused by public school teachers than by Catholic clergy. Well, of course: there are many more public school teachers than there are Catholic clergy. But take a look at this post by mistermix at Balloon Juice. From the post:

[In the video], he’s saying that priests molest an average of 220 kids/year, but teachers molest around 29,000, so it’s unfair that the media has singled out the church.

I take his point that we never read about teachers abusing students. So, it’s probably discriminatory of me to mention that the rate of abuse, based on recent census and church statistics, is 5 rapes per thousand priests, versus 4 rapes per thousand teachers.

If you want to read something more sane about the Catholic Church, Peggy Noonan has a good column on the subject, believe it or not.

The fact that the guy in the video makes such a biased claim (ignoring the RATE of abuse in favor of raw number) is prima facie evidence of bad faith. And, one must say, we see a great deal of that from the church with regard to this scandal: the overwhelming response has been denial, defensiveness, and a determination that all criticism is inspired by (you choose): Satan, the Jews, atheists, people who hate the church, and so on.

Written by LeisureGuy

18 April 2010 at 9:12 am

Posted in Daily life, Religion

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  1. it is not the vatican lying it is reporters like you who are distorting the facts

    Former mayor of NY, judge and Jew, Ed Koch is not a Catholic and wrote

    Ed Koch on Media and Pope

    JERUSALEM, APRIL 12, 2010 (Zenit.org).- The Jewish former mayor of New York is affirming that “continuing attacks” by the media on the Church and Benedict XVI have become “manifestations of anti-Catholicism.”

    Edward “Ed” Koch, who also served as a U.S. Congressman from 1969 to 1977, stated this in a blog published online Thursday by The Jerusalem Post.

    “The procession of articles on the same events are, in my opinion, no longer intended to inform, but simply to castigate,” Koch asserted.

    He acknowledged that the sexual molestation of children is “horrendous,” noting that this is a point of agreement among “Catholics, the Church itself, as well as non-Catholics and the media.”

    On this point, the politician and political commentator said, the Pope has openly proclaimed his abhorrence for the crime and compassion for the victims.

    Koch noted that “many of those in the media who are pounding on the Church and the pope today clearly do it with delight, and some with malice.”

    He continued: “The reason, I believe, for the constant assaults is that there are many in the media, and some Catholics as well as many in the public, who object to and are incensed by positions the Church holds, including opposition to all abortions, opposition to gay sex and same-sex marriage, retention of celibacy rules for priests, exclusion of women from the clergy, opposition to birth control measures involving condoms and prescription drugs and opposition to civil divorce.

    Salad bar

    “My good friend, Cardinal John O’Connor, once said, ‘The Church is not a salad bar, from which to pick and choose what pleases you.’

    “The Church has the right to demand fulfillment of all of its religious obligations by its parishioners, and indeed a right to espouse its beliefs generally.”

    The Jewish politician clarified that he personally does not agree with the Catholic position on these issues, but he added that the Church “has a right to hold these views in accordance with its religious beliefs.”

    He affirmed: “Orthodox Jews, like the Roman Catholic Church, can demand absolute obedience to religious rules. Those declining to adhere are free to leave.”

    Koch stated his belief that “the Roman Catholic Church is a force for good in the world, not evil.”

    As well, he said, “the existence of 1 billion, 130 million Catholics worldwide is important to the peace and prosperity of the planet.”

    “Of course, the media should report to the public any new facts bearing upon the issue of child molestation,” Koch affirmed, “but its objectivity and credibility are damaged when the New York Times declines to publish an op-ed offered by New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan on the issue of anti-Catholicism and offers instead to publish a letter to the editor, which is much shorter and less prominent than an op-ed.”

    Enough

    He asserted, “I am appalled that, according to the Times of April 6, 2010, ‘Last week, the center-left daily newspaper La Repubblica wrote, without attribution that certain Catholic circles believed the criticism of the Church stemmed from a New York Jewish lobby.’”

    Koch clarified that if these “certain Catholic circles” were referring to the Times, it should be stated that the publisher, Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., is not Jewish, but rather Episcopalian, and its executive editor, Bill Keller, is also a Christian.

    “Enough is enough,” Koch said.

    He continued: “Yes, terrible acts were committed by members of the Catholic clergy.

    “The Church has paid billions to victims in the United States and will pay millions, perhaps billions, more to other such victims around the world.

    “It is trying desperately to atone for its past by its admissions and changes in procedures for dealing with pedophile priests.”

    Koch concluded by quoting the words of Jesus, as recorded in John 8:7: “He [or she] that is without sin among you, let him [or her] cast the next stone.”

    hope

    19 April 2010 at 6:33 am

  2. Could you please point out where in the post I distorted facts? Indeed, this post was to correct a distortion of facts by a Church apologist, who was taking the position that abuse is much more common in public schools than in the Catholic church. He (it seemed to me) deliberately confused total abuse with the rate of abuse. My post was to correct that distortion. I don’t understand the relevance of your comment.

    LeisureGuy

    19 April 2010 at 8:48 am

  3. Hope, thanks for this post and for sharing this article.

    Faith

    19 April 2010 at 6:34 pm


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