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US: Friend to dictators, tyrants, and torturers

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1. umm…hmmm…let’s see now..looking for the right answer…oh yeah, right ! ….”When they put those Dictators, Tyrants and Torturers into power”… ??? (Marcos, Shah, Pinochet, Trujillo..and those are just the one’s from way back….the current list is endless…)
   

   

   Nick

   3 August 2011 at 6:00 pm
2. Yeah, you’re right. Perhaps it’s just as well that American power is starting to crumble. OTOH, the problem isn’t, I think, the US. It’s humanity. As a species, we do it to ourselves. Our early excursion into routine torture by the military was already in place by the time we were waging a war of aggression in the Philippines. And, of course, the genocide of the native Americans (something the Spanish, for all their cruelties, didn’t do—or were not so good at it as the US) is a glaring blot on the face of the US as is its love of slavery—so strong it took a war to put an end to the hateful institution, long after other nations had turned away (though worldwide, slavery seems to be alive and well—I suppose so long as the weak lack power they will be made into slaves).

   

   LeisureGuy

   3 August 2011 at 6:27 pm
3. There was a topic that was alluded to several days ago on a post and would of thought you would of been rather intrigued by it, but then, perhaps you either dismissed it as innuendo or were busy on other matters. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/07/floating-gitmo/ So i thought that you might want to read a little more, it gets better as you scroll down and don’t be discouraged by all the complications that they refer to as they are easily overcome … enjoy.

   

   Nick

   3 August 2011 at 11:51 pm
4. I remember the comment about the floating prisons, but I didn’t remember the link. Thanks for the repeat. The article is horrifying.

   

   LeisureGuy

   4 August 2011 at 6:15 am
5. Very true, very true…The implications of this tendency could be very unique when one considers that these vessels sail in international territorial waters, subject to no real humane treatment oversight. How do you get a Red Cross or Red Crescent rep. or other humane org. on to one of these vessels? In my opinion, the whole issue of floating Gitmo’s is just in it’s infancy, Admin lawyers no doubt are seriously looking into this unique and clever circumvention of current restrictions. These ADF’s (Amphibious detention facilities, my term) could in my opinion be the wave of the future as the cost of security and man power may be considerably lower by retooling old freight and Navy vessels.

   

   Nick

   4 August 2011 at 9:03 am

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