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What’s the problem with gay marriage?

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Really, the whole objection to gay marriage makes little sense—defending “traditional” marriage is all very well, except that “traditional” marriage differs depending on when and where you look at it. Among those parties most opposed to gay marriage in the recent California referendum was the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, aka Mormons, who for years and years avocated and practiced polygamy and only gave it up because it was the price of admitting Utah into the Union. And these people defend “traditional” marriage? Please.

Brian Mustanski has a good post for the common-sense case in favor of recognizing same-sex marriages. It begins:

Between the popular vote to take away the marriage rights of same sex couples in California, passing of same-sex marriage bans in several states, and President elect Baraka Obama including full civil unions for LGBT couples as part of this civil rights platform, there has been a lot of recent attention on same sex relationships.  Opponents of marriage rights for same sex couples generally argue that it redefines marriage away from its current and “traditional” form and that children are best raised by two opposite sex parents. Advocates for allowing same sex couples the right to marry argue that marriage confers over a thousand rights that they are currently denied, like the ability to inherit property, visit a sick partner in the hospital, and provide citizenship for non-citizen spouses. See the U.S. General Accounting Office’s report for the full list the 1,049 rights. Advocates also argue that children do just as well when raised by same-sex parents and that marriage provides a number of psychological and health benefits that they are currently denied.

I’m not a historian, but a quick read of the history of marriage makes it clear that it has evolved and changed throughout history and that the current version is a relatively recent phenomenon. That our current version of marriage is not “traditional” invalidates that argument against expanding it to include same sex couples, in my opinion. This leaves the real merits of the debate to center on positive and negative effects of marriage on same sex couples and their children. Fortunately, social scientists have been studying same sex couples and their children and their research provides much relevant information. …

Continue reading. I really like the line “If you’re opposed to same-sex marriage, don’t marry someone of the same sex.” That seems the sensible approach to me: stop being a busy body and tend to your own life.

Written by Leisureguy

2 December 2008 at 7:51 am

Posted in Daily life, Government, Religion

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  1. The reality of the situation is that most people want to be politically correct. Most people in their hearts believe that homosexuality is immoral but since they want to be accepted by others, they say they want to preserv the traditional family. Homosexuality in society, I believe, not only is a sin against God but is a destruction of the fiber of society.


    2 December 2008 at 8:03 am

  2. Well, josephudo, I would be VERY interested in the statistics you’re relying on and their source. My own experience is that most people believe in their hearts that a person’s affectional preference and sexual orientation is very much set in utero and thus not a matter of choice and thus not a moral matter. Quite a few people also believe that what other adults consenually do in private is none of their business.

    It would be very interesting if you could describe precisely what you mean by “the fiber of society” and exactly how one’s affectional preference affects that. A step-by-step explanation would be clearest, I think.

    Jesus, whom some view as God, railed at length against divorce but was silent about homosexuality. I guess He did not share your priorities.


    2 December 2008 at 8:09 am

  3. I suppose I should admit that I believe that you are simply making things up based on no evidence at all, just your own desires and beliefs.


    2 December 2008 at 9:52 am

  4. If society had truly reached the point where “most people” would go along with something they believed was “immoral” because of peer pressure, then I think the fiber of society would have already long been destroyed.

    My understanding of God emphasizes the love God feels towards the world, thus I have no problem believing that God supports love between any two consenting adults, especially in a long term, stable, faithful relationship.

    But hey! If love in a long term, stable, faithful relationship sounds sinful to you, then oppose away — just don’t assume that those who disagree with you are morally weak and not truly supporting their own beliefs and secretly agree with you.


    2 December 2008 at 4:24 pm

  5. thenks


    16 April 2010 at 3:02 am

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