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Edwin Jagger old head = Merkur 34C head, so far as I can tell

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SOTD 24 Sept 2015

A very fine shave today, with a scotch-fragranced shaving soap: Meißner Tremonia’s Strong ‘n’ Scottish. The description, from the link:

Masculine, strong and incredibly intense. Plenty of genuine Scotch whiskey, pure sheep wool fat with the peaty-smoky fragrance of burnt oak.

It’s definitely an Islay scotch. (And I only recently learned that the “s” is silent in “Islay,” like the “s” in “isle” (which is what it means—and indeed is what it is pronounced like if you pronounce the “e” in “isle” like an unaccented schwa: IL-uh, with the “i” being long.))

Despite the strong and present fragrance, it is rinsed away with the lather, so the much lighter fragrance of the Bathhouse aftershave is all the fragrance I have now.

I used two razors, the Georgian Edwin Jagger (an older EJ, from before the their new head design) and the Merkur 34G. I read early on that Edwin Jagger had at that time the same head as the Merkur 34C/G, and simply repeated that knowledge until the idea was challenged by arbarnes on Wicked Edge (see this thread for the discussion).

He pointed out that the 34C is a two piece razor, but that seems irrelevant: the head is manufactured and then the baseplate is (permanently) attached to the 34C handle. (That is, the baseplate and handle are not manufactured as a unit.) And since Merkur provided unplated heads to EJ (which did their own plating, or had it done to their specifications), they presumably would not break down assembled 34Cs, but ship the heads before attachment.

Another point is that the EJ cap’s threaded post is substantially different from the threaded post on the 34C cap:Two caps
So certainly the cap differs between the two razors, due to the 34C’s two-piece design requiring a threaded post that can reach the internal tightening shaft. So in that sense, the caps are different.

But, as arbarnes points out, the key fact is the head geometry—that is, the overall shape of the head as it holds the blade and presents it for shaving. The length of the threaded stud is irrelevant to that, and as you can see from the photo below, the head geometries are, so far as I can tell in holding the razors side by side together, identical: Comparison

Unfortunately the focus sort of escapes me, but I think the shot is clear enough so se that the razors are at the least quite similar. When you inspect them in person, they definitely can been seen to have thee same head geometry.

So it seems to me that the old Edwin Jagger head, sourced from Merkur, used the exact same design (so far as head geometry is concerned) as the Merkur 34C/G.

In the meantime, I have contacted Edwin Jagger and asked them which Merkur head they previously used, but so far no reply—and, indeed, I may get no reply. But I have new confidence in the proposition that the head Edwin Jagger used was the same design (in terms of head geometry, if not in the length of the threaded stud) as the head of the 34C. This was called the Merkur Classic head.

Written by LeisureGuy

24 September 2015 at 10:32 am

Posted in Shaving

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  1. Thank you for this determination. It means my 33C head on a Jagger handle is not the same razor as the earlier rendering of the EJ 89.


    25 September 2015 at 9:28 am

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